Minutes from the November 2, 2003 meeting at Jean Janotta's
home in Raymond, NH
Members present: Jean Janotta, MaryAnn Stoddart,
Joseph Stoddart, Kathie Chouinard, Andy Johnson, Diane Johnson, Pete Dolan,
Lyn Scribner, Gull Reidy, Matt Mason, Brenda Dean, Dottie Duclos, Cindy
King, William L. Pechka-King.
Meeting called to order 12:45pm by president Jean Janotta.
1. Introduction of those present.
2. Secretary’s Report: The Secretary's report from
the last meeting was accepted as read.
3. Treasurer's report: Dottie Duclos reported we
have $22,241 in the regular checking account, the rescue account stands
at $5,059 for a total of $27,300. Harvest Moon Mania gross receipts were
$29,511.00, expenses $24,280.37 with a profit of $5,230.63 (income and
expenses include monies from camping and barbeque). There are still some
expenses to be reported so that is not the final figure. The Tracking Test
brought in $200.00 with $362.89 in expenses for a loss of $162.89.
4. Affiliate Report:
Jean Janotta, Pete Dolan, Diane Johnson and Cindy King
attended the National Affiliate Meeting and reported back the following:
- Incorporation and non-profit status for the various
clubs was discussed. Many of the clubs represented at the meeting do not
have enough money in their treasurers to have to worry about non-profit
status. Incorporating varies greatly from state to state so there can be
no definitive answer from ASCA.
- Testing of judges was also discussed but because of
all the different organizations involved for breed, obedience, agility,
and tracking judges, it seems to be far too difficult to mandate.
- The various clubs will need to contact the ASCA office
for a list of grandfathered dates for clubs, California has lots of clubs
in a condensed area and this is an issue for them.
- Complements to Shelly Martin on a fine job.
- ASCA is looking into having show results sent to the
office electronically, but there’s a lot to do before this will be a reality.
- Hosting of National Events: This was a central topic
at the Affiliate meeting. The major problem with the National Specialty
Show is its length and the fact that it has historically spanned two weekends,
starting on Friday and ending late Saturday the following week. There are
very few fairgrounds or other sites around the country that have this much
open time, covering two weekends, available. There have been three thoughts
on how to overcome the difficulty in finding a site and hosting the event:
- have the Finals at a time separate from the National
- have the time period span only one weekend (i.e., Wednesday
to Wednesday or Thursday)
- have Nationals in a central location each year and have
it run by ASCA, not local affiliates
Pros and cons to all three suggestions were discussed
that cover items like the amount of time people have to take away from
work, the fact of not having various locales to look forward to, the amount
of time it takes for a host club to put on the Nationals, etc. The ASCA
BOD is looking for input to address this problem because it is becoming
increasingly difficult for a host club to step forward not only due to
the amount of work involved but in large part due to the great difficulty
in finding a site. The ASCA BOD was also looking for input from affiliates
on why they don’t choose to host the event.
5. Library Report: Cindy King noted that there have
been no new additions to the library. She is thinking about approaching
Hofling Publishing about a bulk order discount for the Annual and the Australian
Shepherd Quarterly, but she wanted a feel for how many would be interested
in purchasing those publications. It was suggested this question be asked
at the ROM Banquet as that is generally the largest membership turnout.
6. Event Updates: Please check the web site: http://www-unix.oit.umass.edu/~ascne
for additional information on events.
November 15 & 16 – Breed and Obedience in Seekonk, MA.
Everything is on track but there was to be a flyer in the October Bulletin,
which did not get published. There is some concern regarding the number
of entries as MaryAnn has only received 20 obedience entries to date. Please
contact Fran Swanson for information about the event. email@example.com
January 4 – Canine Mastery in Seekonk, MA will be the location
for the next meeting.
January 23, 24, 25 – Agility Seminar with Barb Demascio in
Brookfield, MA. Please contact Lyn Scribner for more information.
January 31 & February 1 – Breed and Obedience in Seekonk,
MA. Please contact Susan Winters for additional information. FoxfireAS@aol.com
March 7 – ROM Banquet and Annual Meeting.
March 20 & 21 – Rescue Show at Paws ‘N Effect new facility
in Hamden, CT – Brenda has her judges and show secretaries. Please contact
Brenda Dean for information.
May 15 (May 16 rain date) – Intro to herding at Janet Benson’s.
Contact Tenley Dexter. Tendexter@juno.com
May 29 & 30 – Agility Trial in Hopkinton, NH. Judges
are set - Sarah Fix and Ron Young. There will be another Herd-n-Go with
Matt Mason. Matt is tentatively planning on running a second pen, as Cindy
Hayden may be available to help and provide stock. Please contact Jean
Janotta for agility information at firstname.lastname@example.org
1. New Members: The following were accepted into
membership – Annette Hicks, Holly McLure.
2. New Sound System: The new system was used at
Harvest Moon Mania and pronounced a rousing success. Thanks again to Pete
Dolan and John Yarmac.
1. Membership Applications: Kathie Chouinard reported
the following have applied for membership in ASCNE
|Eileen & Austin Farrar
|Deborah Frey & Tony DiBartolo
The Nominating Committee (represented by Diane Johnson)
presented the following slate of candidates:
The floor was opened for additional nominations, but
none were received. Elections will be held during November/December and
will be conducted by mail. Voting ballots will be sent to all voting members
on or before November 20th and voting will cease on the 15th day of December.
3. Survey in election package concerning the Nationals
In order to provide feedback to the ASCA BOD on the
questions around the Nationals, the ASCNE BOD felt it was important to
get input from the membership and decided to take advantage of the election
package being sent to all members. A questionnaire will be enclosed and
it can be returned with the ballot. From that, we will present to the ASCA
BOD ASCNE’s thoughts on how this event should be handled.
4. Stopwatches for Herding Show Box – Deb Adamczyk
Deb Adamczyk sent a request to purchase 2 new stopwatches
for the Stock Show box, as there are 2 good ones, but an event like HMM
needs to have 4. The cost is not to exceed $42. Pete Dolan stated there
might be an overabundance of stopwatches in the agility show box. If so,
some of those can be moved into the Stock Show box. Regardless of where
they come from, it was approved to acquire the 2 stopwatches Deb originally
requested and 2 additional ones to have on had for backup.
5. Updates to the 2004 Event Calendar
- Possibly June 19 & 20 – Tenley Dexter asked Bob
Vest to judge a 1 or 2 day trial while down for the clinics (to replace
Linc’s May event) – possibly at Linc’s or Janet Benson’s; Janet Benson
possible CD as she’s not trialing a dog.
President – Jean Janotta
Vice President – Pete Dolan
Secretary – Diane Johnson
Treasurer – Dottie Duclos
Board Members (two positions to be elected) – Warren Robbinson,
Brenda Dean, Mary Ann Stoddart
Affiliate Representative (one to be elected) – Sharon Ruppel,
- Possibly August 21 & 22 – Tenley Dexter is looking
to have a herding trial in CT; Janet Benson, Linc, or Diane Sobel-Meyer
to be course director; thought to use Deb & Joe’s dates but there is
a private clinic at Janet’s facility that weekend; still leaves a month
to Kathy Warren clinic and no conflicting AKC venues
- Cindy King said she, Warren Robinson, and Bill Haggis
had been considering hosting a herding trial in June as well. Based on
the input from Tenley, they may now consider something in July.
- Matt Mason felt having a herding trial each month from
June to October might be overkill and that perhaps Cindy, Warren, Bill,
Tenley, Linc, and Diane could work something out to just have the additional
trials in June and August.
6. AMBOR Co-Sanctioning Agility Events with NADAC
Jean Janotta received correspondence from AMBOR stating
that NADAC would now be co-sanctioning events with AMBOR and requesting
clubs consider doing the AMBOR co-sanctioning. Pete Dolan said this was
causing a lot of discussion on the Agility Committee as well. In addition,
the ASCA Agility rules state that affiliates shall not seek sanctioning
for any event with a registry other than NADAC and CKC.
7. 2004 Membership Renewal – Kathie Chouinard
Kathie has the updated membership renewal form for 2004
and will be mailing them out shortly. Membership renewals are due by January
1, 2004. If not received by February 1, your membership will be considered
lapsed and voting rights will be suspended until the month after dues are
8. Entry Fees for Juniors
It came to the Board’s attention prior to the HMM event
that juniors have been allowed to pay half entry fees for all stock events.
This is not consistent across the venues. For Junior Showmanship (breed),
the cost is $3; for obedience, agility, and tracking, there is no junior
rate. Although we feel it is important to support juniors, it is also important
to balance that support against the costs. There are two divisions for
juniors in herding:
- Working Junior Handler Division – this is a separate
standalone division - just the handler is judged; no titles awarded to
- Open Working Junior Division – points are earned from
the started, open, advanced, and post-advanced divisions.
It is possible for one junior to enter both these divisions
on each type of stock, which would equate to 6 runs, however, they are
only paying for 3 runs (keep in mind at HMM, the pre-entry fee for ducks
was $25, sheep was $30, and cattle was $35, so that would be paying $90
as opposed to $180). Other things to consider are a judge can only judge
40 runs in a day, the stock can only run a certain number of runs in a
day, and the cost of the stock is not altered based on the age of the handler.
There was a lot of discussion on this issue. Three recommendations
- Junior Showmanship (breed) entry fee will remain at
$3 (or possibly go up $1 or $2) and entry fees for all other events will
be the regular fee
- 10% off all fees for Juniors, regardless of the venue
- Junior Showmanship (breed) entry fee will remain at
$3 (or possibly go up $1 or $2); Working Junior Handlers will receive a
50% reduction in entry fees; all other fees will be at full price
This discussion will be continued at the next meeting.
9. Letter from ARPH
Dottie received a letter from ARPH with a heartfelt
thanks for the monies sent as a result of the March Rescue event.
10. Letter from ASGHI
Dottie received a letter from C. A. Sharpe thanking
ASCNE for its donation last year and soliciting additional funds. A motion
was made and passed to send ASGHI a donation of $150.
11. ASCNE 30th Anniversary Pewter Cups
When the announcement was made at the Annual Banquet
in March 2003 about the ASCNE 30th Anniversary Pewter cups, some members
voiced a desire to be able to order one of the cups if they hadn’t managed
to win one during the year. The cost of each cup is depends on the quantity
ordered. The estimated cost would be in the $10-$15 dollar range. If anyone
is interested in purchasing one of these cups, please e-mail Jean Janotta
12. Consolidated Mailing List
Brenda Dean volunteered to manage the consolidated mailing
list. Jean will send her the list used for the HMM premiums. Cindy King
also suggested putting an ad in the Match Show Bulletin with an overview
of our events (e.g., obedience, herding, agility, tracking open to all
breeds) and stating if they want a flyer/premium to provide Brenda Dean
with their address and identify the venues they are interested in.
13. 2005 Nationals
Georgia is entertaining putting in a bid for the 2005
Nationals. Peter Kontos was contacted to see if ASCNE would be interested
in hosting a breed pre-show like we did in 2000. In addition, Jean Janotta
talked with Ally Bryant regarding agility pre-shows. Stay posted.
- Sue Winters and Little B – Altered Championship -
won all her BBX altered classes at the PreShows; Altered Winners Bitch
and then Best of Winners, beating a total of 54 dogs
- Heather Braddock
- Caleb went Best of Breed at the first PreShow, Best
Opposite at the next two and the 1st premier at the 2003 Nationals
- cute red tri puppy by Caleb out of Flip won BOB puppy
at the 2nd pre show beating a total of 51 puppies....won her class every
day and then went BOS puppy at the Nationals
- Jean Janotta & Boston – 3rd Agility Finals
- Jean Janotta & Zack – 4th Agility Veterans Finals
- John Spivey & Kirby – 9th Agility Finals
- Robin Goodman & Lacey – 4th Obedience Finals
- HMM Versatility
- 1st Lizette Durrschmidt and Z
- 2nd Dianne McCormick and Holly
- 3rd Anne Hubbard and Elly
- 4th Dianne McCormick and Willow
- Wendy Dryer as the breeder of these 4 dogs
- Sue Schroeder and Dancer – TD
- Celeste Kelley and two of her dogs - TDs
Meeting was adjourned at 2:45pm
Next meeting: January 4th, 2004 at noon
at Canine Mastery in Seekonk, MA
Respectfully submitted, Diane Johnson